Jan 3, 2013
The (Future) Automation of Labor, and Some Notes on “Mind,” “Intelligence,” and the Google Singularity
(Modified version of a comment on Dale Carrico’s Amor Mundi blog, in response to his excellent “Krugman Flirts with Robot Cultism“–also see the slightly different version of Carrico’s post on his blog on the World Future Society site, “Krugman Flirts with Futurism,” both of which respond to Paul Krugman’s “Is Growth Over?” and “Robots and Robber Barons“):
I write in strong sympathy with much of what Carrico says in his posts, and I share his outrage and umbrage at what he calls Robot Cultism, transhumanism, singulatarians, et al.
But I am not sure Krugman is engaged in the same kind of singulatarian fantasizing, & I want to comment on one bit of language used by Krugman that Carrico slightly follows and that the Singulatarians consistently employ, which I believe needs to be avoided. Carrico writes:
Very regularly, these adherents of AI have often spoken of “intelligence” in ways the radically reduce the multiple dimensions and expressions of intelligence as it actually plays out in our everyday usage of the term, and often they seem to disparage and fear the vulnerability, error-proneness, emotional richness of the actually incarnated intelligence materialized in biological brains and in historical struggles. It is one thing to be a materialist about mind (I am one) and hence concede that other materializations than organismic brains might give rise in principle to phenomena sufficiently like consciousness to merit the application of the term, but it is altogether another thing to imply that there is any necessity about this, that there actually are any artifacts in the world here and now that exhibit anything near enough to warrant the term without doing great violence to it and those who merit its assignment, or to suggest we know enough in declaring mind to be material to be able to engineer one any time soon, if ever, given how much that is fundamental to thought that we simply do not yet understand.
Though I believe Carrico is trying to avoid it, in this paragraph I still read some uses of the term “intelligence” as nearly equivalent with “mind,” and specifically with “human mind.”
The mind–the human mind, but also the other forms of mind we experience, especially as seen in animals–does many more things than exhibit “intelligence.” This is the thing Kurzweil is radically unable or unwilling to see, in part due to his incredible ideological rationalism (I try to demonstrate the deep historical and conceptual connections between rationalism and computer mania in my book).
The use of the term “intelligence” in the fields of AI/Cognitive Science as coterminous with “mind” has always been a red herring. The problems with AI have never been about intelligence: it is obviously the case that machines have become much more intelligent than we are, if we define “intelligence” in the most usual ways: ability to do mathematics, or to access specific pieces of information, or to process complex logical constructions. But they do not have minds–or at least not human minds, or anything much like them. We don’t even have a good, total description of what “mind” is, although both philosophy and some forms of Buddhist thought have good approximations available. Despite singulatarian insistence, we certainly don’t know how to describe “mind” outside of/separately from our bodies, as recent work like Anthony Chemero’s Radical Embodied Cognitive Science show so thoroughly. There is a radical, deeply unscientific Cartesianism in singulatarians: they believe mind is special stuff, different from body, despite their apparent overt commitment to a fully materialistic, scientific conception of the world.The only way we know to “create” minds is to create new human beings, meaning their bodies.
Illustration from IEEE Spectrum
I know Carrico will be sympathetic with me when I assert that in too many fundamental ways, mind is body, and that there is no point in discussing how to either create minds in things that are not bodies, or to move our minds out of our bodies: to move our minds out of our bodies, on a scientific account, means moving our bodies out of our bodies, which is as incoherent as it comes.
All this said, by focusing on the red herring of intelligence I think Carrico discounts something economically accurate in Krugman’s account. There are very few tasks, including cognitive tasks, that are not currently being replaced by robots and algorithms. The idea that capital “cares” enough to make sure there will be enough work remaining for human beings to do is as ludicrous as it sounds. Marx saw that long ago. Capital will burn itself (and us) into the ground, because all it “wants” (another “artificial intelligence,” a cognitive power without a human body) is to circulate faster and faster. But that “intelligence” has very little in common with “mind.” As Krugman says in his example of speech recognition:
Speech recognition is still imperfect, but vastly better than it was and improving rapidly, not because we’ve managed to emulate human understanding but because we’ve found data-intensive ways of interpreting speech in a very non-human way.
Carrico responds:
I must protest the glib suggestion that one can still describe with the very human word “interpretation” what Krugman is actually referring to when he speaks of “data-intensive… very non-human ways of… speech.” This conflation of non-human data sifting with human interpretation looks to me not merely as bad as the straightforward falsehood of proposing, as so many AI dead-enders do and as Krugman seems to deny, that we have actually “emulated understanding” in code, but frankly the claim about machine “interpretation” seems to me actually just another form of making exactly the same proposal.
This is the part I don’t understand. The examples to consider are not Siri or autocorrect–and what Carrico calls their “enraging ineptitudes”–but speech recognition software like Dragon Dictation and many others. I don’t see any way to deny the startling improvement in these products over the past two decades; where once they required intense personal training for each individual user, and even then were incredibly error-prone; today’s products can handle a startling range of accents and dialectical variation and respond near-perfectly before training, and very near perfectly afterwards.
The point is not that Dragon Dictation displays anything like a human mind, that it is part of an embodied mind that anyone could say deserves “human rights,” etc. The point is not, and here is where I don’t quite follow Carrico’s reasoning, that what Krugman calls “intelligent robots” will have minds; the point is that an increasing number of algorithmic and robotic tools can replace labor functions piecemeal–from assembling robots in manufacturing plants, to algorithmic customer voice response systems in which humans play almost no role, to high-frequency trading systems that have replaced a large percentage of human traders, to robots that clean the floor–none of these resemble “mind” or “consciousness” at all, but in domain-specific ways, their “intelligence” for specific tasks, or their utility for those tasks, already meets or even exceeds what humans can do. I don’t see this kind of economic extrapolation as having much in common with singulatarian thinking; no radical transformation in human being, human minds, or even machines is required to see these changes happening. This seems to be what Carrico means in a comment to the blog post, where he mentions the “socioeconomic dislocations of real-world automation”: I think this is exactly the phenomenon that Krugman means to be highlighting.
I think there is every reason to believe that machines can and will replace everything we do, or nearly everything, unless we bring technological “progress” under democratic control.
Which brings me to the concern I repeatedly see in the comments on Carrico’s blog, that the singularity movement is not important. I very much agree with Carrico’s “Ten Reasons to Take Transhumanists Seriously.” In the past, my response (which is one reason I don’t quite see mentioned in that post) to that was to say that in my experience, many of the most advanced technologists in corporate America for some reason adhere to this deeply unscientific piece of dogma, and pursue unbridled technological progress and the automation of everything because they “know” (following Kurzweil) that it is leading to transcendence–instead of believing the evidence of their own eyes, that it is leading someplace very dark indeed, especially when we reject out of hand–as nearly all Googlers do–that anybody but technologists should decide where technology goes.
And that was before Google hired Kurzweil–an avowed panpsychist-religious nutcase–as its “engineering Director.” Some have suggested that Google hiring Kurzweil “kills the Singularity.” I worry, on the contrary, that it displays the deep investment in the Singularity that informs much of Silicon Valley culture and Google in particular. The internet may have killed Scientology and birthed something much more ubiquitous, widespread, and dangerous in its wake. It is so hard to get committed technologists even to consider the mind/intelligence distinction I made in the beginning of this comment–the work to undo the terrible accelerating direction in which they are pointing us is truly daunting.
Thank you for your many perceptive comments here!
I do definitely agree that not only humans exhibit intelligence (ethical vegetarian here). I also agree that we should take care not to reduce discussion of “intelligence” to discussion of “mind” in whatever construal, especially in its recently fashionable computational figurations.
I assume a conception of “intelligence” that admits of emotional dimensions as well as sociocultural ones that tend to be neglected in current philosophical currents. In the passage you quote there is already the indication — left unexplored, it is true — that intelligence is expressed and incarnated in history and in social struggle, for one thing.
Even if we were to restrict “intelligence” to the bleak precinct of the body, I would not care to assume that only the brain is “its” seat, given the wide-ranging organismic terrain on which the nervous system plays. And even to the extent that the brain is where the action is insofar as intelligence is concerned, I do think it pays to notice, in Bruce Sterling’s phrase, that the brain seems a whole lot more like a gland than a computer of all things.
I definitely agree that there is a deep-seated Cartesianism undergirding GOFAI, Singularitarianism, and techno-immortalist uploading fantasies — which is paradoxical to say the least, because this Cartesianism is the stealth spiritualism in what they insist is a starkly materialist viewpoint (indeed, when I have countered that materialism about intelligence demands greater respect than they show for the actually-existing organismic and social materialization of intelligence they tend rather nonsensically to accuse me of a chauvinist championing of “vitalism”).
Now, in the post you discuss I fear I had too many plates spinning on poles already to explore these themes as they warrant. Also, my focus was more specifically rhetorical then broadly analytic in the piece, and so you may be right that speech recognition devices are getting better at what they do in the way Krugman says, maybe even enough to justify his skepticism about Robert J. Gordon’s skepticism about digital-boosterism (the jury’s very much out and you can count me with Gordon and the skeptics on that one still), but it seems to me that in mobilizing futurological frames about super-intelligent robotic quasi-persons Krugman is committed to a fairly conventional AI discourse throughout the piece, whether the specificities of his technological examples warrant it or not, and hence my concerns about the ways such futurological frames threaten to denigrate actual intelligence remain relevant even if Krugman thinks he is talking about how Big Data might give us a Long Boom contra Gordon. It is the generic conventions of his futurological frame that lead him to conclude very much as he began, making sfnal claims about robot uprisings where he began with robot slaves.
Of course, it is true that our techniques and artifacts amplify the force of our agency, whether we are talking about an abacus, a bulldozer, or a speech-recognition device. It is also true that the benefits of such amplification are exactly as likely to exacerbate inequity and exploitation or equity and flourishing, and it is political not technical agency that determines the difference.
As I said in the piece, I think Krugman contributes to the amplification of democratic agency through which the amplification of technical agency can be directed to the common good when he is writing as an economist, but I think he undermines this contribution when he is writing instead as a futurologist, so shaped as that discourse is with a techno-fetishism, techno-reductionism, and techno-triumphalist that ultimately conduce to anti-democratic politics whatever the avowed intentions of those who deploy it.
And so, I definitely agree with you again when you say “there is every reason to believe that machines can and will replace everything we do, or nearly everything, unless we bring technological ‘progress’ under democratic control.” This is why the piece included what might have seemed the digressive insistence that, “I do not agree that there can be a political science of free beings, I do not agree that there is a human destiny that beckons the clear-sighted but an open futurity inhering in the ineradicable diversity of stakeholders to the present, I do not agree that thinking what we are doing is the least bit about making profitable bets or making better prophesies. I think the skewed perspective of futurology may sometimes seem to be a matter of talking about robots but it is really more a matter of talking as if we are robots.” Politics is profoundly misconceived as a scientific description of predictable regularities of human behavior rather than as an ongoing rhetorical and pragmatic project through which a plurality of stakeholders to a shared finite world reconcile the diversity of their aspirations.
Hari Seldon is simply the wrong hero for a liberal economist to have, if I may say so again, especially when Marx, Keynes, Polanyi, and Galbraith remain available, warts and all.
Dale,
I really appreciate your comments and agree with virtually everything you’ve said. I wrote a bit hastily despite all attempts not to (get too excited over certain topics!) & agree that it was a mistake for Krugman to indulge in singularitarian talk rather than stick to concrete concerns about robotic replacement of labor.
To elaborate on one point, I am in *complete* agreement: mind is NOT “brain.” The brain is very important, to be sure, but mind is *everywhere* in the body. Among other things, that’s why indexical concepts like “my hand,” “my foot,” “my heart” mean so much to us individually, and why Kurzweil’s account is incoherent: what would these vital concepts and so many others mean if we uploaded into the machine? In what sense would “me” be “me,” if I have to jettison these concepts (and many others) that appear, today, to be so important to my understanding of who I am?
I have your book now, and I do disagree quite a bit with your analysis of Chomsky. The document whose authorship “Chomsky never disputed” (228 n1) is, I’m pretty sure, taken from a ZNET forum posting: http://www.zcommunications.org/postmodernism-by-noam-chomsky (Why would he dispute it?)
The remainder of the quote about Lacan in that essay is “though his earlier work, pre-cult, was sensible and I’ve discussed it in print.” (Was there no self-conscious charlatanry in Lacan’s later career?)
But, aside from these minor points, I think it would be interesting to consider what Chomsky frequently brings up when talking about mind/body distinction–that gravitation rendered the concept of ‘body’ incoherent.
I say he didn’t dispute authorship to indicate that he wrote it. I hadn’t seen that version of it, but I presume that means he did write it. I invoked the Chomsky article to demonstrate his hostility to literary theory, cultural studies, even feminist theory, all of which are pretty well-known.
Want to say which parts of my analysis you disagree with? Most of what I say about Chomsky is derived from what I consider fairly authoritative accounts (Randy Harris, Putnam, Newmeyer, Huck/Goldsmith, others); I openly admit I am embracing one set of views about him, but since he is highly controversial, that is fairly inevitable. I will stick by my understanding of his institutional politics, which I have not seen contested in any effective manner: while an obviously committed radical leftist in the world at large, with regard to his own discipline and ones near it he is typically found on the other side.
I generally agree with Chomsky’s comments on gravitation and the body, which are used to show that “the mechanical philosophy is untenable” (Powers & Prospects, 21). He means the body as a mechanism as opposed to the mind as special/soul-stuff; rather “the body” (or any living organism) is a biological entity that can’t be reduced to mechanism: “We are left with no concept of body, or physical, or material, and no coherent mind-body problem. The world is what it is, with its various aspects: mechanical, chemical, electrical, optical, mental, and so on. We may study them and seek to relate them, but there is no more a mind-body problem than an electricity-body problem or a valence-body problem.” As I hope is clear in the book, there is much in Chomsky I completely agree with, including this.